{"id":9902,"date":"2026-07-12T16:01:59","date_gmt":"2026-07-12T14:01:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jmponcet.fr\/?p=9902"},"modified":"2026-07-18T16:12:19","modified_gmt":"2026-07-18T14:12:19","slug":"les-no_vices","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jmponcet.fr\/2026\/07\/12\/les-no_vices\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Les no_vices&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Les novices, par principe, ils sont ici pour vivre une vie sans <span>vicissitude<\/span>. Ils prennent les habits et les habitudes d&#8217;une vie sans fortune.<br \/>\nIls sont (encore) sans vices et viennent se visser l\u00e0 pour l&#8217;\u00e9ternit\u00e9 (ou presque). Ils entrent en religion, ma foi, fort de la confiance de leur foi.<br \/>\nMais quand emprise et harc\u00e8lement s&#8217;invitent. Le tourment les habitent. Vis-toi de l\u00e0, vide l\u00e0, sinon tu d\u00e9visses comme dit Demis*.<br \/>\nLes novices peuvent \u00eatre des apprentis mais quand ils ne veulent pas apprendre ce sont des abrutis, vis et versa, recto verso disait l&#8217;Abb\u00e9 Paulo.<br \/>\nLenovo, c&#8217;\u00e9tait am\u00e9ricain, maintenant c&#8217;est chinois (ce placement publicitaire est involontaire). Les novices sont souvent form\u00e9s par des tutrices.<br \/>\nC&#8217;est le cas(<del>soulet<\/del>) souvent pour les <del>couverts<\/del> couvents, car dans les abbayes ce sont des tuteurs (comme pour les fleurs). Ils se disent &#8220;tu&#8221; d\u00e8s le d\u00e9but ?<br \/>\nJe pense qu&#8217;ils se vouvoient (tant qu&#8217;ils se voient) un temps (surtout dans les couvents). Car l&#8217;appel au noviciat ne doit pas \u00eatre p\u00e9nalis\u00e9 par la promiscuit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Mais souvent, je dois dire que les tuteurs et les tutrices \u00e9taient tout juste majeurs. C&#8217;est \u00e9tonnant de donner \u00e0 former les jeunes par des gens sans grande exp\u00e9rience, n&#8217;est-ce pas ? C&#8217;est qu&#8217;en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, les tuteurs n&#8217;enseignaient que tr\u00e8s peu, s&#8217;occupant plut\u00f4t de tous les aspects mat\u00e9riels.<\/p>\n<p>Et le c\u00f4t\u00e9 probl\u00e9matique \u00e9tait souvent qu&#8217;ils n&#8217;avaient pas de vis. C&#8217;\u00e9tait une \u00e9poque \u00e9pique. Pas facile de vivre et travailler sans vis. Alors, dans certains endroits, on trouva le moyen de leur inculquer plein de vices (cach\u00e9s). Apr\u00e8s quelques ann\u00e9es, ils n&#8217;\u00e9taient plus no_vices, comme par hasard ! Leurs vices \u00e9taient bien ancr\u00e9s. Allez donc retirer une vis avec les doigts** dans la chambr\u00e9e ?! (le tournevis n&#8217;existait pas encore). 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